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    As stated in previous post I have created a serious problem with The Little Red Bird when over charging. I am almost positive modules have been effected and the task at hand is going to be troublesome, time consuming, and expensive. At the present one thing that was not effected is the windows going down each time the doors where opened, now they are all the way down and will not go up. Have switches out and am trying to hot wire and get windows up. Am not sure what wires I need to make contact with, any help would be appreciated.

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    Those switches I believe run through the computer. I would guess you can't just run a jumper to the switches. Trying this could damage the computer even more
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      When the windows won't go back up, you mean the buttons will not bring the windows back up? Spouse had to replace the window actuator to get ours to work again. Window actuator is in the door. That is assuming your battery is in working condition now.

      Do you have a set of two workshop manuals for your 2002 Thunderbird... and the electrical manual to go along with them? handy volumes to have on hand. watch ebay for a set to come up for sale if you don't have them.
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        Originally posted by Jimr View Post
        Those switches I believe run through the computer. I would guess you can't just run a jumper to the switches. Trying this could damage the computer even more
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        Correct....pushing the buttons to raise or lower the window sends a signal through an electronic module.

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          Thanks to all, going to let the Little Red Bird rest until my mine has settled on how to get it back up. I fell it is more then one module and a dealer will sock it to me also I guess some of the modules would have to be set at the dealer. I will trace electrical modules and fuses from the back to the front.

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          • #6
            Be careful hot wiring any switches as you might fry a module if done incorrectly. If you have a bad FEM or REM have it rebuilt and move on

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            • #7
              I am in the process of locating work shop manuals on the Little Red Bird, in the mean time exactly where is the RCM located in the car.

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              • #8
                I have a 04 I think yours is an 02, don't know if their the same configuration, here's a picture (I hope)

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                • #9
                  I am looking for a mechanic that would take interest in our Little Red Bird. I live in the Washington D.C. area. Feel sure modules need replaced one might be the RCM. Would like to replace myself but am not sure if only a Ford Dealer would be required to set up.

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                  • #10
                    I searched on e-bay and had several choices. I spent $140 for both books(the electrical book I would call a supplement. They are very complete, but keep in mind they were written for professional mechanics. Another thought is its possible mechanics at a Lincoln dealer would be more familiar with our cars since they are nearly identical underneath to the 00 to 06 Lincoln LS. They have seen a few of those.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Elky64 View Post
                      Another thought is its possible mechanics at a Lincoln dealer would be more familiar with our cars since they are nearly identical underneath to the 00 to 06 Lincoln LS.
                      I've been saying this for years ... 14 years at least. TAKE YOUR CARS TO LINCOLN DEALERS, NOT FORD DEALERS.
                      Unbelivable TBN trips including ALL of the lower 48 States plus 9 Canadian Provinces, 8 European Countries, 3 Caribbean Countries, Countless National Parks and have attended well over 100 TBN Events since 2001 and counting. Best of all ... fabulous friends.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DavidA View Post
                        I've been saying this for years ... 14 years at least. TAKE YOUR CARS TO LINCOLN DEALERS, NOT FORD DEALERS.
                        Now days, so many times the Ford and Lincoln dealer are one and the same now after Mercury was discontinued.

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                          ......And half the tech's working have never seen an LS or a Thunderbird!
                          Be just what you is, not what you is not. Folks what do this is the happiest lot.....Mr. Wizard the Lizard

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                          • #14
                            Took mine to a Lincoln dealer once to change the fuel filter, asked if it was done and the serv. mngr. said it doesn't have a fuel filter. Brought it back to ford.

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