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  • And now, another COP topic to sort through... :-)

    Well... We just got the T-bird a short time ago. This last weekend on our way home we got the sad portends that have been described herein many times relating to coil failure. I have been through the TBN topics and read enough to think that I could attempt this myself. I have gotten the covers off and exposed the coils, and I must say it was much easier that I had feared. I ordered a full set of Spectra Premium C619M8 Ignition Coils (Pack of 8), and a full set of 8 Bosch 9603 Double Iridium Spark Plugs. It appears that only two cops have been replaced so far as the others look to be a lot older, possibly the original ones. Here's the info (hype) on the coil set I bought. "Unit is designed to Original Equipment (OE) fit, form and function requirements accomplished by leveraging Spectra Premium's OE engine management systems design expertise.
    • 100% copper base in both primary and secondary windings
    • Windings insulated by high voltage enamel coating
    • Unit is tested for durability through long-cycle thermal shock test (-50 to 300 Degree F), ensuring reliability against extreme vibrations
    • Each new coil is road tested to ensure real world performance and to verify that each design meets Spectra Premium's high standards for quality.
    The coil set was $108.84. I know there were cheaper sets out there, but these appeared to be a step up to me.

    All and all, I would say that this is a pretty basic bit of work and could be accomplished by most people that can turn a wrench. Go for it!

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    You are definitely doing the right thing changing all eight and the plugs. I suggest also changing the rubber boots and connection springs, using a good coating of dielectric grease on the spring connections. I am not familiar with the COPs you are using, but do like your plug choice. You can do it! Just have some long 3/8" socket extensions, a swivel head 10mm socket and a 12 pack on ice for that dreaded #8.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BillyL View Post
      You are definitely doing the right thing changing all eight and the plugs. I suggest also changing the rubber boots and connection springs, using a good coating of dielectric grease on the spring connections. I am not familiar with the COPs you are using, but do like your plug choice. You can do it! Just have some long 3/8" socket extensions, a swivel head 10mm socket and a 12 pack on ice for that dreaded #8.
      The set comes with all new boots and springs from that I understand. So far all the bolts have been 7mm. BTW, 9/32nds and 7mm are the same. Who knew?

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      • #4
        Don't forget to use anti-size on the plugs threads.
        No matter where you go, there you are!
        If I'm not here, I'll be somewhere else !

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FatMan View Post
          Don't forget to use anti-size on the plugs threads.
          Anti-seize? Is that to keep the steel threads from goring in the aluminum heads? Are they aluminum? Yeah, I'm new to these cars... Do the plugs stay tight with anti-seize on them?
          I heard that only one teaspoon of anti-seize was ever made, and they have been cleaning it off everything ever since...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mujiir View Post

            Anti-seize? Is that to keep the steel threads from goring in the aluminum heads? Are they aluminum? Yeah, I'm new to these cars... Do the plugs stay tight with anti-seize on them?
            I heard that only one teaspoon of anti-seize was ever made, and they have been cleaning it off everything ever since...
            Yes, I think the heads are aluminum, someone else will know and jump-in. The plugs will stay tight, be sure to torque the plugs to spec. I use it on anything that I will be removing from time-to-time, lug nuts, plugs, the nut that holds lawn mower blade's on.
            You know, you may be right about the small amount that was made, I know that every time I use it, it ends up between my toes, and what is worse some how down the crack of my butt. That said, I have never seize-up!!
            No matter where you go, there you are!
            If I'm not here, I'll be somewhere else !

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            • #7
              Thanks, that image is now stuck in my head forever.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FatMan View Post


                You know, you may be right about the small amount that was made, I know that every time I use it, it ends up between my toes, and what is worse some how down the crack of my butt. That said, I have never seize-up!!
                HA! That'll help you slide into the drivers position. ;-)
                Gene, here's an image that'll get it out of your minds eye... Enjoy! :-D

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 007Cruiser View Post
                  Thanks, that image is now stuck in my head forever.
                  No matter where you go, there you are!
                  If I'm not here, I'll be somewhere else !

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mujiir View Post

                    HA! That'll help you slide into the drivers position. ;-)
                    Gene, here's an image that'll get it out of your minds eye... Enjoy! :-D
                    No matter where you go, there you are!
                    If I'm not here, I'll be somewhere else !

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mujiir View Post

                      HA! That'll help you slide into the drivers position. ;-)
                      Gene, here's an image that'll get it out of your minds eye... Enjoy! :-D

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                      • #12
                        As you know, I was in the process of changing all my coils (COPs) and plugs. In reading the other posts on TBN concerning this venture, I got the impression that this was going to be like sliding down a razor blade into iodine. I have read herein about how VERY proud Ford dealerships ($$$$) are in charging for this task. I was worried to say the least, but I chose to face the challenge. This post is to assure you that IMHO, if you can trim your own toenails, you can do this. Many folks have said the #8 spark plug is particularly onerous. The trick (for me) was to put a 3" lg. 3/8 drive extension on the 5/8 spark plug socket, and then put the universal on top of that. From there you can add whatever further extensions you feel necessary to get the ratchet in the clear. I added two more 6" long extensions after the universal and had no problem at all getting #8, or any of the other plugs out for that matter. I used a 1/4 drive set with a 7mm socket for the covers and COPs. If you know "rightie-tightie" and "leftie-loosie" this should prove no problem. I didn't have a 7mm open end wrench for the cover bolts over plug #8, and the 1/4 drive ratchet and socket didn't fit, so I used my 9/64ths box end wrench. (9/64ths and 7mm are the same.)

                        This method is guaranteed not to wear, tear, pull hair, or bite the baby. It will not chip, peel, crack, or fade... Money back, I really mean it this time...

                        The job is done, and what a difference it made! It now goes like a scalded dog. Sounds great, and no hesitation or stumble when giving a little throttle going up a hill. Ran it on I-30 and it got up to 80 on the shortish entrance ramp. Most excellent! Loving my T-bird.

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                        • #13
                          Good for you!! And that is why we share information and love our birds. Enjoy the ride!

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                          • #14
                            Glad that it all worked out well.

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                            • #15
                              And now, on to tightening the X-braces on the frame... I might have to let some air out of me to reach under the car. :-/

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