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  • #16
    Years back, I went with the after market version. No problems, so far. It's also where I mounted the back up sensors read out.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sealy View Post
      Years back, I went with the after market version. No problems, so far. It's also where I mounted the back up sensors read out.
      Very nicely done.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by AZTB View Post

        Very nicely done.
        Thank you. I try to do good.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sealy View Post

          Thank you. I try to do good.
          Forgot to ask.
          Did you loose the so called under mirror Tbird courtesy/map lights when you installed the new mirror?
          HKS
          2002 TB Motor Trend COTY Blue/White/Full #24737 (One of 291)
          2021 Explorer XLT Sport 2.3L 300HP/310FP color RollingThunder
          2015 Passat SE TDI 150HP/236FP (40MpgCity47MpgHW) 720MR
          26Mpg in traffic jam. Skill required to get 40+mpg in town.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HKS View Post

            Forgot to ask.
            Did you loose the so called under mirror Tbird courtesy/map lights when you installed the new mirror?
            HKS
            Nope. Still right there in the header. Merlot is a 2004.
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            • #21
              Gotta say, Hermann. Every manual day/night mirror that I ever had required some readjustment after flipping the tab. Are you needing a big adjustment or something minor?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sealy View Post

                Nope. Still right there in the header. Merlot is a 2004.
                OK, my 2002 never had anything in the header. Lights were part of the mirror.
                HKS
                2002 TB Motor Trend COTY Blue/White/Full #24737 (One of 291)
                2021 Explorer XLT Sport 2.3L 300HP/310FP color RollingThunder
                2015 Passat SE TDI 150HP/236FP (40MpgCity47MpgHW) 720MR
                26Mpg in traffic jam. Skill required to get 40+mpg in town.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 007Cruiser View Post
                  Gotta say, Hermann. Every manual day/night mirror that I ever had required some readjustment after flipping the tab. Are you needing a big adjustment or something minor?
                  Gene,
                  The error is big enough that it bothers me a lot.
                  I lose the more distant cars, and lately they come at you quickly.
                  Hermann
                  2002 TB Motor Trend COTY Blue/White/Full #24737 (One of 291)
                  2021 Explorer XLT Sport 2.3L 300HP/310FP color RollingThunder
                  2015 Passat SE TDI 150HP/236FP (40MpgCity47MpgHW) 720MR
                  26Mpg in traffic jam. Skill required to get 40+mpg in town.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by HKS View Post

                    Gene,
                    The error is big enough that it bothers me a lot.
                    I lose the more distant cars, and lately they come at you quickly.
                    Hermann
                    Hermann, I'm wondering if you had accidently adjusted your night time mirror setting to use it in daytime? Then when flipping the switch to what you thought was night time at night to night time setting, it's all out of whack. I did that once before I realized what I had done. Took me a few days to realize what the problem was. ps - kind of confusing to describe the problem so hope you can understand what I meant.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 5bird7 View Post

                      Hermann, I'm wondering if you had accidently adjusted your night time mirror setting to use it in daytime? Then when flipping the switch to what you thought was night time at night to night time setting, it's all out of whack. I did that once before I realized what I had done. Took me a few days to realize what the problem was. ps - kind of confusing to describe the problem so hope you can understand what I meant.
                      Thanks Dot, I will check.
                      Hermann

                      P.S. Also see edited updated info in post #15.
                      Last edited by HKS; Sep 16, 2019, 02:15 PM.
                      2002 TB Motor Trend COTY Blue/White/Full #24737 (One of 291)
                      2021 Explorer XLT Sport 2.3L 300HP/310FP color RollingThunder
                      2015 Passat SE TDI 150HP/236FP (40MpgCity47MpgHW) 720MR
                      26Mpg in traffic jam. Skill required to get 40+mpg in town.

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                      • #26
                        2002RvMirorBack.jpg2002RvMirrorFront.jpg
                        Inside RV 2002 mirror connector. Pin 1 is on the left and pin 7 is on the right.
                        Extracting and switching pins is doable.

                        This goes with post #15.
                        This modification will not produce an OBDII error.
                        Last edited by HKS; Sep 17, 2019, 07:03 AM.
                        2002 TB Motor Trend COTY Blue/White/Full #24737 (One of 291)
                        2021 Explorer XLT Sport 2.3L 300HP/310FP color RollingThunder
                        2015 Passat SE TDI 150HP/236FP (40MpgCity47MpgHW) 720MR
                        26Mpg in traffic jam. Skill required to get 40+mpg in town.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 5bird7 View Post

                          Hermann, I'm wondering if you had accidently adjusted your night time mirror setting to use it in daytime? Then when flipping the switch to what you thought was night time at night to night time setting, it's all out of whack. I did that once before I realized what I had done. Took me a few days to realize what the problem was. ps - kind of confusing to describe the problem so hope you can understand what I meant.
                          I did find this to be the exact cure for mine, Dot (thanks to you, Hermann, for the thread). It appears the mirror was put in nighttime mode, but then whole mirror was manually moved to make it work during the day (I discovered this after reading this whole thread). So now (after correction), on my Bird the little lever on the bottom of the mirror must be flipped toward me during the day (and I adjust the mirror for that station); then at night, I simply put the flipper back toward the windshield, and voila: it's on night-time mode. Thanks Dot.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by AZTB View Post

                            I did find this to be the exact cure for mine, Dot (thanks to you, Hermann, for the thread). It appears the mirror was put in nighttime mode, but then whole mirror was manually moved to make it work during the day (I discovered this after reading this whole thread). So now (after correction), on my Bird the little lever on the bottom of the mirror must be flipped toward me during the day (and I adjust the mirror for that station); then at night, I simply put the flipper back toward the windshield, and voila: it's on night-time mode. Thanks Dot.
                            Thanks for all the info, Jim and Dot.
                            I tried to see if I could find a setting in broad daylight (maybe not a good idea). The nighttime setting showed a somewhat wavy distorted picture (you would never see the distortion at night). Maybe you are not supposed to use the nighttime setting in the daytime.

                            So I am sure I must be using the correct setting with the flipper towards me, which was not distorted.
                            I was able to get a satisfactory day/night setting by ducking down a few inches.

                            I think it has to do with having the seat all the way back and some trigonometry.
                            Hermann
                            P.S. Dot may remember the horrible job done when the Gorillas replaced my windshield, years ago. Maybe they also dropped the mirror.
                            Last edited by HKS; Sep 17, 2019, 03:42 PM.
                            2002 TB Motor Trend COTY Blue/White/Full #24737 (One of 291)
                            2021 Explorer XLT Sport 2.3L 300HP/310FP color RollingThunder
                            2015 Passat SE TDI 150HP/236FP (40MpgCity47MpgHW) 720MR
                            26Mpg in traffic jam. Skill required to get 40+mpg in town.

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                            • #29
                              Glad I helped you, Jim, but sorry Hermann that that trick didn't do it for you.
                              Limited Edition databases for 007 msg..#26 , PCR sticky, and Cashmere msg.#64
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sealy View Post
                                Years back, I went with the after market version. No problems, so far. It's also where I mounted the back up sensors read out.
                                Sealy,
                                How much force did it take to remove the old mirror? I worry about the glue pad coming off or breaking something. Did you have the Ford special tool to put the new mirror on?
                                Hermann
                                2002 TB Motor Trend COTY Blue/White/Full #24737 (One of 291)
                                2021 Explorer XLT Sport 2.3L 300HP/310FP color RollingThunder
                                2015 Passat SE TDI 150HP/236FP (40MpgCity47MpgHW) 720MR
                                26Mpg in traffic jam. Skill required to get 40+mpg in town.

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