Coker Whitewalls are coming

[ckc57tbird]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

I just hope that they will make a whitewall tire with the EXACT same size as the originals...I know that Vogue does not have the correct size for our cars although they have something that will still fit...but is not exact...
Since I have rear fender skirts on my car, I absolutely need to have the exact original size because if I go to a even a slightly larger tire, they will touch as there is very little room ...
Claude

Hello,
Where did you get fender skirts??? Do you have pictures??
Regards
CK

[Ol'Dave]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Claude: You are absolutely correct. the 55 size is taller, and they do rub the "pins" that hold the skirts on, when you bottom out, ie bumps/ruts. Was the only problem I had with my Vogues. They are an awesome looking combination. But alas, only for show.

CK: Dennis, from Hot Chariots in Las Vegas is the manufacturer. They sell direct, but kinda slow. Or use a vendor such as LAPHil at Powersports or Arron at Thunderbird Concepts. Sometimes it's good to have a middle man.

[andrews4691]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Okay. Tech question. If the lower the number the wider the tire. Why wouldn't 55's fit on our rims, if they come with 50's. The 55 (255 55r 17) is talking about the side wall size. The first number is the width in MM, second number is the aspect ratio of the sidewall, third number is the rim size. the lower the second number the shorter the tire. Hope this helps. Curtis

[andrews4691]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Most tire sizes begin with a letter or letters that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which they were designed. The common indicators are as follows:
P225/50R16 91S
P = When a tire size begins with a "P," it signifies the tire is a "P-metric" size that was designed to be fitted on vehicles that are primarily used as passenger vehicles. This includes cars, minivans, sport utility vehicles and light duty pickup trucks (typically 1/4- and 1/2-ton load capacity). The use of P-metric sizes began in the late 1970s and they are the most frequently used type of tire size today.
225/50R16 92S
If there isn't a letter preceding the three-digit numeric portion of a tire size, it signifies the tire is a "Metric" size (also called "Euro-metric" because these sizes originated in Europe). While Metric tire sizes are primarily used on European cars, they are also used on vans and sport utility vehicles. Euro-metric sizes are dimensionally equivalent to P-metric sizes, but typically differ subtly in load carrying capabilities.
T125/90D16 98M
T = If a tire size begins with a "T," it signifies the tire is a "Temporary Spare" ("space saver" or "mini spare") that was designed to be used temporarily only until a flat tire can be repaired or replaced.
LT245/75R16 108/104S
LT = If a tire size begins with "LT," it signifies the tire is a "Light Truck-metric" size that was designed to be used on vehicles that are capable of carrying heavy cargo or towing large trailers. This includes medium and heavy-duty (typically 3/4- and 1-ton load capacity) pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles and full-size vans. Tires branded with the "LT" designation are the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.
7.50R16LT 112/107Q, 8.75R16.5LT 104/100Q or 31x10.50R15LT 109Q
LT = If a tire ends with "LT," it signifies the tire is either an earlier "Numeric", "Wide Base" or "Flotation" Light Truck size designed to be used on vehicles that are capable of carrying heavy cargo and towing trailers (Numeric sizes), use 16.5-inch diameter rims (Wide Base sizes) or are wider, oversized tires designed to help the vehicle drive on top of loose dirt or sandy surfaces (Flotation sizes). This includes light, medium and heavy-duty (typically 1/2-, 3/4 and 1-ton load capacity) pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles. Tires branded with the "LT" at the end of their size designation are also the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.
195/70R15C 104/102R
C = If a Euro-metric sized tire ends with a "C," it signifies the tire is a "Commercial" tire intended to be used on vans or delivery trucks that are capable of carrying heavy loads. In addition to being branded with the "C" in their size, these tires are also branded with their appropriate Service Description and "Load Range" (Load Range B, Load Range C or Load Range D).
ST225/75R15
ST = If a tire size begins with "ST," it signifies the tire is a "Special Trailer Service" size that was designed to only be used on boat, car or utility trailers. ST-sized tires should never be used on cars, vans or light trucks.
Section Width
Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.
P225/50R16 91S
The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).
225mm / 25.4 = 8.86"
Sidewall Aspect Ratio
Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.
P225/50R16 91S
The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.
Internal Construction
A letter (R in this case) that identifies the tire's internal construction follows the two digits used to identify the aspect ratio.
P225/50R16, P225/50ZR16
The R in the P225/50R16 91S size identifies that the tire has a Radial construction in which the tire's body plies "radiate" out from the imaginary center of the wheel. Radial tires are by far the most popular type of tire today representing over 98% of all tires sold.
If the R in the size was replaced with a D (225/50D16), it would identify that the internal tire body plies crisscross on a Diagonal and that the tire has a "bias ply" construction. Tires using this construction are for light truck and spare tire applications.
If the R in the size was replaced with a B (225/50B16), it would identify that the tire body plies not only crisscross the tire on a diagonal as before, but that they are reinforced with belts under the tread area. This type of tire construction is called "Belted." Tires using this construction are practically extinct.
Speed Rating
Today, the only tires that continue to include the speed rating "in" the tire size (P225/50ZR16) are Z-speed rated tires. In this case, following the two digits used to identify the aspect ratio are the letters ZR to identify the tire's speed rating (Z) and its internal construction (R). Since 1991, all other speed ratings are identified in the tire's Service Description (which will be covered shortly).
Tire and Wheel Diameter
P225/50R16 91S
The 16 indicates the tire and wheel diameter designed to be matched together.
Tires that have a rim diameter expressed in inches (P225/50R16, as well as 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 24, 26 and 28) are called "inch rim" sizes, are the most common type of tire size and are used on most cars, minivans, vans, sport utility vehicles and light duty light trucks.
While not as common, two additional "unique" types of tire/wheel diameters are still in use today.
Tires and wheels that have a rim diameter expressed in "half" inches (8.00R16.5LT, as well as, 14.5, 15.5, 17.5 and 19.5) are used on some heavy-duty trailers, heavy-duty light trucks and box vans.
Tires and wheels that have a rim diameter expressed in millimeters (190/65R390, as well as, 365 and 415) are called millimetric sizes. Michelin initiated millimetric sizes for their TRX tires that saw limited use on many different car models in the late 1970s and 1980s.
Michelin PAX System run flat tires have been introduced as an integrated wheel/tire system on a very limited basis as Original Equipment (O.E.) in North America. An example PAX System size of 235/710R460A 104T expresses tire and wheel dimensions in millimeters (235 mm Section Width, tire Overall Diameter of 710 mm and a 460A mm rim diameter, with the "A" in 460A signifying these tires feature "asymmetric" beads in which the outside bead (450 mm) and inside bead (470 mm) are actually different diameters.
All of these "unique" tire/wheel diameters were developed specifically because the tire and wheel design or intended vehicle use required them to be different than conventional tires and wheels. All of these tires and wheels feature bead profiles that have a different shape than traditional "inch rim" sizes.
Tires and wheels with unique rim diameters should never be combined with traditional "inch rim" tires and wheels.
It is critical that the tire and wheel diameters are always confirmed to match before the tire is mounted on the wheel.

[andrews4691]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Hope that helps I found it at http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp . Section Width

Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.

P225/50R16 91S

The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).

225mm / 25.4 = 8.86"

Sidewall Aspect Ratio

Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.

P225/50R16 91S

The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall. The short of it. Curtis

[ChromeDome]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

I ask Coker Tire about the speedometer error by going from a R50 to a R55. This was their answer.


Kenneth,

You would be going 62.1mph if your speedo was at 60mph.

Thanks,

Jerry Preisel
Customer Service Representative
www.coker.com

[DavidA]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

I spoke to Coker yesterday and was told these are still not available. It looks like I'll be going back to diamond back. :(

[DavidA]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Well, not it seems the tires will be available in Mid March. Here is the info:

Item #6880832
Size - P235/55R17 AMERICAN CLASSIC
White Wall will be 2"
Cost - $225.00

I've got a set on order.

[Sandman]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

David,

What's the whitewall width on the Diamond Backs?

Ron

[AZTB]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Well, not it seems the tires will be available in Mid March. Here is the info:

Item #6880832
Size - P235/55R17 AMERICAN CLASSIC
White Wall will be 2"
Cost - $225.00
I've got a set on order.

That's good news, David, as you and I both know, we've had sidewall problems with the Diamondback WW's. Now I'll know where to go when my DBacks are ready for replacement. Thanks.

[Nicky-The-Squid]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

That's good news, David, as you and I both know, we've had sidewall problems with the Diamondback WW's. Now I'll know where to go when my DBacks are ready for replacement. Thanks.

Jim, what problems have you had with the DBacks?

[AZTB]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

The white-sidewall is attached (epoxy + heat) to the sidewall of the Michelin...it is actually added to the tire (via heat & epoxy) and because is stands out from the sidewall, is subject to injury or tearing if you should scuff a curb (happened on the back passenger-side tire the week I had them installed).

[Lonestar]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Guy – this brief word of caution…. Probably only applies to DavidA. I suspect the speed rating of the American Classis whitewall is no where near the V rating like the OEM tires. V is an overkill for our cars in my opinion but going too far the other direction on a hot summer day clipping along @ 90 could result in a lot of damage (hopefully only to the car and not you) if a tire were to let go.

[ChromeDome]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Well, not it seems the tires will be available in Mid March. Here is the info:

Item #6880832
Size - P235/55R17 AMERICAN CLASSIC
White Wall will be 2"
Cost - $225.00

I've got a set on order.

David, any new information on the Coker Tires?

[MATBird]

Re: Coker Whitewalls are coming

Well, not it seems the tires will be available in Mid March. Here is the info:

Item #6880832
Size - P235/55R17 AMERICAN CLASSIC
White Wall will be 2"
Cost - $225.00
I've got a set on order.

Did these ever come through?? Any status at all?