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    Any Thoughts on This Advice for Long-Term Storage?

    Scarlett, the 04 Merlot, sits for as long as 3 months as a time so I found this information particularly relevant.


    From Road & Track December 2009 Tech Correspondence Column

    Idle Thoughts

    I would like to know how often an auto�mobile needs to be driven to keep everything working properly. Specifically, I want to know if driving every three to five days is enough to prevent any type of mechanical problem related to standing. Our two Miatas, mine and my wife's, are driven year round only under clear skies and are rarely left standing more than five days at any given time. Occasionally in the winter they may have to sit longer until the roads clear of snow or salt, but they have never sat longer than 10 days. Is there a general rule of thumb for how to avoid issues from standing?

    Bradley Jones
    Fort Knox, Kentucky

    There are so many mechanical and environmental factors in this question that no blanket answer suffices. The big issue is moisture, the killer of camshaft lobes and consumer of bearings, so the more often a vehicle is operated for 20 minutes or more the better. Obviously a dry climate helps, along with about 20 other things.

    Oil drain back and the resulting "dry" starts are another issue. Again, so many variables affect this that no rule of thumb has evolved, other than to say the more often you use the car, the better.

    Still, "standing" damage is very real. Boaters and aviators fight this constantly due to the weeks or months between their engine starts, and always, the more frequent the operation, the better. Unfortunately, it takes downtimes of months or years to have "mothballing" or "pickling" engines make any sense, so unless a year layoff is planned there is little to do other than keep the battery charged and the oil clean.

    To take a wild automotive swing at this question we wouldn't sweat a three-day layoff, and the occasional 10-day to two-week idle period due to business trips and vacations probably doesn't hurt enough to matter. If a several-month layoff is planned, then just let the car sit with fresh oil and the battery removed, then accept one cold, dry start at the end. The damage is cumulative, so engines run daily will return the most hours of useful operation.
    Last edited by My Raven; Nov 13, 2009, 08:45 PM.
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    Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

    Originally posted by My Raven View Post
    Any Thoughts on This Advice for Long-Term Storage?
    Scarlett, the 04 Merlot, sits for as long as 3 months as a time so I found this information particularly relevant.
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      Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

      Maybe I'll have to move our Inca up to using it twice a month instead of once a month.
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        Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

        I have a 99 jeep[33k miles] that I store 6 months at a time in the summers . The only problem area I have found is the disc brake calipers. The pistons tend to stick from lack of use. Last year I had to replace both front ones. It goes alot better without the brakes dragging. I noticed the right front disc on my o3 t-bird [24k miles] is showing more wear than the others. When it goes into storage this month I plan to pump the brakes every couple of weeks to keep the pistons freed up.
        Do you think it would help if I loosen the hardtop latches to take the pressure off from the rubber gaskets? I often leave the doors and trunk lid ajar on storage velicles.

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          Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

          To fight the moisture issue I use a car bag. I lay the bag down, put the birds on theirs, put a piece of 2x12 under each tire and throw 5 4" x 6" desiccant packs in the bag - 2 underneath, 1 on a towel & news paper on the console, 1 on a towel & newspaper in the trunk and 1 on a towel & newspaper under the hood. I crack the windows, hold the hood & trunk up a few inches with a piece of PVC pipe. In the spring the rotors are bright and shinny. I also keep the battery tender on the battery running the wire out the corner of the bad and duct taping it as air tight as I can. This will be my '03's 6th year following this process.

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            Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

            "The damage is cumulative, so engines run daily will return the most hours of useful operation." Road & Track

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            • #7
              Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

              Originally posted by Chuck View Post
              To fight the moisture issue I use a car bag. I lay the bag down, put the birds on theirs, put a piece of 2x12 under each tire and throw 5 4" x 6" desiccant packs in the bag - 2 underneath, 1 on a towel & news paper on the console, 1 on a towel & newspaper in the trunk and 1 on a towel & newspaper under the hood. I crack the windows, hold the hood & trunk up a few inches with a piece of PVC pipe. In the spring the rotors are bright and shinny. I also keep the battery tender on the battery running the wire out the corner of the bad and duct taping it as air tight as I can. This will be my '03's 6th year following this process.
              I do mostly the same thing:
              • fresh oil change with Castrol Syntec
              • Sta-Bil in the gas
              • car in "Car Bag"
              • Dessicant in engine compartment; on console; in trunk and about 6 on under the car (one by each wheel)
              • Battery Tender and vent tube attached to another tube vented outside bag
              • windows opened about 1 - 2 inches
              • cloth car cover over car
              • "Car Bag" zipped up and locked
              Has worked for all the seasons I have used it. I also put towels over the soft top before I put the hard top on to absorb any mositure and prevent mildue stains
              Last edited by MikeB; Nov 14, 2009, 09:37 AM.
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                Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

                Here is a new idea for a battery for our T Birds, built for street roders who like to hide there batterys and who often store them for a long period of time. Go to www.hotrodbatteries.com

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                  Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

                  Originally posted by Chuck View Post
                  To fight the moisture issue I use a car bag. I lay the bag down, put the birds on theirs, put a piece of 2x12 under each tire and throw 5 4" x 6" desiccant packs in the bag - 2 underneath, 1 on a towel & news paper on the console, 1 on a towel & newspaper in the trunk and 1 on a towel & newspaper under the hood. I crack the windows, hold the hood & trunk up a few inches with a piece of PVC pipe. In the spring the rotors are bright and shinny. I also keep the battery tender on the battery running the wire out the corner of the bad and duct taping it as air tight as I can. This will be my '03's 6th year following this process.
                  Sorry, repeat of previous post.
                  Last edited by MikeB; Dec 10, 2010, 12:34 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

                    and, do use gas treatment to keep the fuel fresh.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

                      WHAT?! You mean after letting it sit for 1+ years, I just can't get in it and go? I figured I would need a battery, maybe tires, but omg! All I did was park it and close the garage door... oops.

                      Guess it really is time to get a new one....

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                      • #12
                        Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

                        I park mine in the garage with the hardtop on and tightened down, windows up tight, and place a car cover over it. Looks just as good when I remove the cover!

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                          Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

                          My Galaxie's being laid up for weeks. Doing a timing chain replacement and a whole bunch of other ......stuff.

                          Plus, the engine paint I bought states "apply at 60 degrees minimum (waiting for a halfway decent NJ weather day), and do not start car for two weeks after applying".

                          Going to be about 6 weeks in total between startups.

                          Timing chain cover/chain, water pump, carb, heater blower cover, valve covers, generator, fuel pump, surge tank, etc are all dismantled/out, or detached.

                          Plus, the radiators out for a recore.

                          Cleaning the block for a "new old Ford" repaint on the motor.

                          Doing a lot on my own, but I have a real mechanic ready to make a house call to put things back together.

                          Great feeling of security.

                          It'll be the best 212,000 mile car in 2011 autoshows.
                          Last edited by jerrym3; Dec 25, 2010, 08:35 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

                            What to do? Drive it Year Round, Best Medicine for the car.

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                              Re: Garage Queens & Long Term Storage: What to Do?

                              Park ours month or two at a time. No battery tender, no cover, top down. Start it and go. No problems in nearly 10 years and 12,800 miles.

                              Dry Las Vegas climate helps alot. Replaced battery after 7 years just because. It was still working great, but at that age I figured I was rolling the dice every time I drove away from home in it.
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