Since my Dad retired a few years ago he has been picking up and dropping off cars for one of the dealerships in town. He just called me to say he was driving a black '02 T-bird with a solid black interior and black hardtop. The mileage is 45,000. The car was bought over the internet from North Carolina, not at a wholesale auction. The price was $14,200. I'm sure the dealer will put a significant markup on the car, but it was available to anybody at that price.
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Originally posted by MidLifeBird View PostSince my Dad retired a few years ago he has been picking up and dropping off cars for one of the dealerships in town. He just called me to say he was driving a black '02 T-bird with a solid black interior and black hardtop. The mileage is 45,000. The car was bought over the internet from North Carolina, not at a wholesale auction. The price was $14,200. I'm sure the dealer will put a significant markup on the car, but it was available to anybody at that price.
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I would say that's a reasonable price for an 02 with that many miles and who knows what else could be wrong with it. Show me the Car-Fax. Leroy
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As with most used cars, they tend to decline for the first 7-8 years and then level off, or increase due to the inflation effect on new car prices.
The 55-57 Thunderbird classics were not very expensive between 1960-1965 either.
And they had the help of not being a discontinued model.
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Originally posted by Peterfurlan View PostActually a high price for a dealer to pay.02 Nieman Marcus-SS htp-f/sil. #165 - 21 states-DC
02 TB-TB htp-p/blue acc.-Nancy Gioia-28 states-DC
03 007-Coral htp-f/white acc. #468 7 states
03 WW-WW htp-p/red 8 states
04 VMG-VMG htp-p/white - 20 states-DC
04 Merlot- Merlot htp-sand- B. Grassnig-48 states-DC
04 TR-TR htp-blk 20 states-DC
04 LIB-LIB htp-p/white 16 states-DC
05 Cashmere htp-stone #408 21 states-DC
05 Dusk Rose-DR htp-cashmere seats - 48&DC
05 IG-IG htp-p/white #82 - 48&DC
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Originally posted by Vegas Retrobird View PostAnd the prices continue to fall...02 Nieman Marcus-SS htp-f/sil. #165 - 21 states-DC
02 TB-TB htp-p/blue acc.-Nancy Gioia-28 states-DC
03 007-Coral htp-f/white acc. #468 7 states
03 WW-WW htp-p/red 8 states
04 VMG-VMG htp-p/white - 20 states-DC
04 Merlot- Merlot htp-sand- B. Grassnig-48 states-DC
04 TR-TR htp-blk 20 states-DC
04 LIB-LIB htp-p/white 16 states-DC
05 Cashmere htp-stone #408 21 states-DC
05 Dusk Rose-DR htp-cashmere seats - 48&DC
05 IG-IG htp-p/white #82 - 48&DC
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IMHO, our new 2002-05 Thunderbirds are a special and relatively rare, piece of Americana. Many (including myself) perceive them as a bonifide proxy for the 1955-57 Thunderbirds. A very low mileage example might fetch north of thirty grand, about the same price of a good "baby-bird." True, those classic birds, if excellently restored, are commanding double that amount. There are those of us that pamper & treat their '02-05 T-Birds like the true proxy which they indeed are. However, paradoxically, there likely are equally as many owners who value and care for them as they would any mundane car. Such folk simply do not recognize their treasure and therefore sell them at a discount. If you want to compare apples with oranges ; you all, might recall the 1978 Silver Anniversary Corvette Indy Pace Car which many bought above sticker price and squirreled away. It's taken 32 years for an almost no mileage speciman to command 40 grand. Gee, I can't quite think of an apples to apples comparison. The new VW Bug? I don't think so, they made too many in ten or so years...I'll stick with Thunderbird...Fun, fun, fun!
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Originally posted by Lindy View PostIMHO, our new 2002-05 Thunderbirds are a special and relatively rare, piece of Americana. Many (including myself) perceive them as a bonifide proxy for the 1955-57 Thunderbirds. A very low mileage example might fetch north of thirty grand, about the same price of a good "baby-bird." True, those classic birds, if excellently restored, are commanding double that amount. There are those of us that pamper & treat their '02-05 T-Birds like the true proxy which they indeed are. However, paradoxically, there likely are equally as many owners who value and care for them as they would any mundane car. Such folk simply do not recognize their treasure and therefore sell them at a discount. If you want to compare apples with oranges ; you all, might recall the 1978 Silver Anniversary Corvette Indy Pace Car which many bought above sticker price and squirreled away. It's taken 32 years for an almost no mileage speciman to command 40 grand. Gee, I can't quite think of an apples to apples comparison. The new VW Bug? I don't think so, they made too many in ten or so years...I'll stick with Thunderbird...Fun, fun, fun!02 Nieman Marcus-SS htp-f/sil. #165 - 21 states-DC
02 TB-TB htp-p/blue acc.-Nancy Gioia-28 states-DC
03 007-Coral htp-f/white acc. #468 7 states
03 WW-WW htp-p/red 8 states
04 VMG-VMG htp-p/white - 20 states-DC
04 Merlot- Merlot htp-sand- B. Grassnig-48 states-DC
04 TR-TR htp-blk 20 states-DC
04 LIB-LIB htp-p/white 16 states-DC
05 Cashmere htp-stone #408 21 states-DC
05 Dusk Rose-DR htp-cashmere seats - 48&DC
05 IG-IG htp-p/white #82 - 48&DC
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Yeah, but in order to have a low mileage Thunderbird I would have had to drive my other car a 2002 Avalon (boring...). So, I figure I'll drive the wheels off of "Annie" and if I still have it at the time of my demise, my kids can either sell it, restore it, or enjoy it.
If I wear it out I'll just look for another low mileage '05 and keep on truckin'.
IMHO
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People who bought these cars as an investment are learning the fickle nature of objects d' art as money makers.
We are, or should be, the second wave of purchasers - the ones that buy the cars because we like the way they look, appreciate their uniquness, and enjoy the company of like minded people. We're taking advantage of the investors that are unloading, which is OK by me. They shouldn't have bought in the first place. For our ownership - if, at any point, money comes into the equasion - you are in the wrong hobby.
My Bird is parked outside (under cover), gets washed and cleaned as needed, gets driven when I want to (with the top up or down (mostly)), goes to car shows (and Home Depot), and is, generally, some of the best money I've spent. I think that's enough to ask of it. (That and being Merlot and LS.)sigpic
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