pcm problem

[babybluebird]

Re: pcm problem

Your Ford dealer may need to program the latest PCM update. Cost $100.

HKS

[babybluebird]

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They did that already, as was suggested by one of the gang here.....this site is very helpful....I know someone will come up with something regarding PCM's.

[E'sBird]

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If the PCM did not control so much of the car, there could be other options such as 4.6 or 5.0. I am told that they are horrible to get in the Bird. Too bad. I have a good friend with a 4.6 he would love to put in a T-Bird. I hope someone will come up with some options because our cars naturally get old and things break. Not such a great future for T-Birds. I hope that Ford will not completely forget us. Perhaps that is our problem, to make sure that Ford does not. Keep the T-Bird before Ford. Problems, talk to Ford reps until they get tired of hearing from us. Then perhaps, or perhaps not....there has to be a way. Lonestar, where are you? You found Weapon X, got any ideas for aftermarket PCMs?

[Bradford]

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This is the very reason I have been back and forth on keeping this car. Bought to be a fun car, however it's not much fun when they are broken, sure, extended warranty helps with the cost of repairs, and the fun to drive factor is there, but you start to loose confidence in the car. What if you were en-route to a TBN Event or anywhere else and you had this problem, you car ends up in a shop away from home, 6-7 weeks or longer, your not a regular customer there, your not there to stay on it, what happens then, who is F'ed, Ford no, you are. In today's technology, these cars are far from old, and with the aggravation here, the fun starts to dissipate as well. Lots of other fun convertibles out there, some with retractable hardtops, most all with parts available. My car, a 2005 is 6 years old, am I to believe there are no PCM available if I needed one for my 6 year old car? That's BS, Ford needs to step it up. This is obviously a problem and Ford has to see it, they should have a minimum number available at any time. The more I hear of these stories, the more I think it's time to let it go before I become one of the victims. I have zero tolerance with car trouble and lack of support from the manufacturer that wants to continue selling me their product. The dealers and service departments can only do so much, the backing has to be there.

[E'sBird]

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For those outside the warranty discussion. I "Googled" PCM and ECU and came up with several alternatives. I went to one website and entered 2002 Ford Thunderbird and came up with two options including a rebuild. Then I typed in 2003 Ford Thunderbird and came up with the same two options including a rebuild. This situation is fixable and parts are out there, just not confined to OEM. That feels a lot better.

The website: autocomputersystems.com

[Brad]

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We are in a transition period on electronic parts, if the OEM are still available there isn't enough demand for the 3rd party guys to start manufacturing/repairing parts. Hold on to your "broken" parts like the pcm, often electronic parts can be repaired with a 5 cent transistor for someone who knows what they are doing.

[04birdman]

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This is the very reason I have been back and forth on keeping this car. Bought to be a fun car, however it's not much fun when they are broken, sure, extended warranty helps with the cost of repairs, and the fun to drive factor is there, but you start to loose confidence in the car. What if you were en-route to a TBN Event or anywhere else and you had this problem, you car ends up in a shop away from home, 6-7 weeks or longer, your not a regular customer there, your not there to stay on it, what happens then, who is F'ed, Ford no, you are. In today's technology, these cars are far from old, and with the aggravation here, the fun starts to dissipate as well. Lots of other fun convertibles out there, some with retractable hardtops, most all with parts available. My car, a 2005 is 6 years old, am I to believe there are no PCM available if I needed one for my 6 year old car? That's BS, Ford needs to step it up. This is obviously a problem and Ford has to see it, they should have a minimum number available at any time. The more I hear of these stories, the more I think it's time to let it go before I become one of the victims. I have zero tolerance with car trouble and lack of support from the manufacturer that wants to continue selling me their product. The dealers and service departments can only do so much, the backing has to be there.

i might be able to make this work for me...iv got 10000 ea FOR SALE signs....thunderbird discount $2 ea.....i wish there was a way to forward this whole thread to the brass at ford....at this rate, over the next few yrs they could be pissin off approx 60k possible customers

[bottomtime]

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This is the very reason I have been back and forth on keeping this car. Bought to be a fun car, however it's not much fun when they are broken, sure, extended warranty helps with the cost of repairs, and the fun to drive factor is there, but you start to loose confidence in the car. What if you were en-route to a TBN Event or anywhere else and you had this problem, you car ends up in a shop away from home, 6-7 weeks or longer, your not a regular customer there, your not there to stay on it, what happens then, who is F'ed, Ford no, you are. In today's technology, these cars are far from old, and with the aggravation here, the fun starts to dissipate as well. Lots of other fun convertibles out there, some with retractable hardtops, most all with parts available. My car, a 2005 is 6 years old, am I to believe there are no PCM available if I needed one for my 6 year old car? That's BS, Ford needs to step it up. This is obviously a problem and Ford has to see it, they should have a minimum number available at any time. The more I hear of these stories, the more I think it's time to let it go before I become one of the victims. I have zero tolerance with car trouble and lack of support from the manufacturer that wants to continue selling me their product. The dealers and service departments can only do so much, the backing has to be there.

MY THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS EXACTLY - MINE IS A 2005, AND WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS EVERYONE IS HAVING, AND YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE, YOU LOOSE YOUR TRUST IN THIS CAR. I HAVE THOUGHTS FROM TIME TO TIME, OF SELLING IT. HAS ONLY 9800 (+/-) MILES ON IT, AND WHEN I MAKE A 2000 MILE ROUND TRIP TO SEE MY DAUGHTER, I ALWAYS WONDER IF IT WILL GET ME THERE AND BACK, TROUBLE FREE.........GO FIGURE. I REALLY LIKE THE NEW FORD FLEX!

[Ediron]

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Might be better off with a 55-57 Bird ,you can still get parts and they are not as complicated electronically.I wish we were back with points and condensers.

[00mustng]

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....so,...Ford has pretty much swept us under the carpet....would they let this happen to the Mustang?....Will Ford abandon the hybrid/electric crowd when it realizes it's not the answer?... A Japanese car manufacturer claims 7 years life for a battery pac...they are not reusable....and where are they disposed of?....replacement estimates...$5000 ...good luck with your hybrid Fords! ....ah yes, I drive a feel good hybrid....hope the technology and the component manufacturers are interested beyond 5 years!

[bottomtime]

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Might be better off with a 55-57 Bird ,you can still get parts and they are not as complicated electronically.I wish we were back with points and condensers.

I had a beautiful '57 T-Bird with "both tops", Hardtop and the Convertible top which you had to raise and lower it manually by hand, & tonneau cover, etc., and the biggest mistake I've ever made in my life was selling it. I still regret that to this very day. Hindsight is great, isn't it.....!

[04birdman]

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I keep hearing about A LAW? requiring parts to be made for cars 7,8 or 10 yrs?......from what i can tell, looking on the internet this just does not exist.....if someone knows where to find info on this one way or the other, i would like to see it.......thanks frank

[bada]

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Does anyone know what a PCM for the birds cost? Because if they become available. I think it would be wise to buy one for backup.

[E'sBird]

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Does anyone know what a PCM for the birds cost? Because if they become available. I think it would be wise to buy one for backup.

Yes, I found one for 199.00 at the website above in my post.

There are aftermarket outfits making PCMs for our Birds because, they also fit the Lincoln. Maybe we are safe for a while.

[Peterfurlan]

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Found that site two weeks ago see post No.13. Didn't seem to help anyone then doubt if it will now. The only way to find out is buy one and see if it actually works.
The part number they list is not even close to the Ford part number. If it did work
it would be a good $200.00 investment.