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Seems there were some mighty successful cars in that lineup.- Ted
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Interesting comment by the Ford salesman...proves once again that Ford reps didn't know their own product!Comment
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Wow! The Tbird is in some pretty bad company. I thought the New Bettle was OK, but it was a "chic" car. The Saturn Aura was nice, and the only Saturn I would ever consider except for the SKY.sigpic
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Needless to say, It's written to get readership and nothing more.Limited Edition databases for 007 msg..#26 , PCR sticky, and Cashmere msg.#64
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It's unfortunate that as is so often the case with our domestic carmakers, the first year of a new model can have a host of problems. As for TBird that combined with price didn't give it a chance with the media.
When I told my husband I wanted to buy a 2005, he remembered his first opportunity to drive an '02 and the poor impression he had of it. So, off we went to a Bill Brown Ford to test drive an '05 triple black. He had to admit that Ford had addressed all the concerns he had after driving the '02 at a press event. So my dismay is that Ford gave up on it so quickly. We both love our 'Dunderbird'.Comment
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Thanks David, they got that wrong...so very wrong. Posting here ought to stir the pot...lynching anyone?Comment
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Stopped production after three years? These people can't even count right!Comment
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Wait till Chrysler finds out that the PT Cruiser was a flop........sigpic
Invoice $38,457 - Sold new 9/15/2003
One of twenty two built like this
She was a good one. Sold 12/30/2014.
Replaced with 2013 Infiniti G37 Coupe.
A lot better car and even more exclusive, but doesn't have the Cachet the Thunderbird had. Adios, mi Amigo.Comment
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I find the Ford dealer sales manager's comments interesting. The dealer network was clearly one of the culprits in the untimely demise of the car. Between bumping the price up by as much as $10K, lack of knowledge and/or interest on the part of sales personnel, it is a wonder they sold as well as they did. And they do seem to be holding their own as used cars, so how much of a flop does that make them?sigpic
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There's a pretty simple definition of a flop vs a success.
Did the car meet or exceed Ford's original sales projections?
If it did, then it's a success. If not, then it's a flop as far as the auto industry goes.
Doesn't really make much sense to ask us retro owners if the car was or wasn't a flop. If I thought it was a flop, I wouldn't have bought one.
But, because I bought one, that doesn't make it a success.2010 Explorer Limited Edition, tri color white, camel interior
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Very well put.Originally posted by jerrym3 View Post
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It's a success if enough of us think like you and bought one A car doesn't have to be a big sller to be a success, and most are a success later in life, just like us.Originally posted by jerrym3 View PostComment
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The t-bird is a success in spite of Ford not because of them. Back in the 50's the baby birds weren't so well thought of either. My Dad thought they were junk and he was a Ford guy. Cars for the masses rarely hold their value long. PT Cruiser sold a bunch of cars but I don't see many garage queens. Maybe 50 years down the road when 95% have rusted away the 3 or 4 left will be worth a few bucks.Comment
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Honda figured out there all new for 2011 Civic is a FLOP - Redesigning it after only 1 year in production ~!Comment
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