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  • #16
    Re: Car Shows, Judging & Tie Breakers

    I might add that the Yellow Rose Classic that I showed in this past weekend, gave both Johnnycog's and mine "Class winner" trophies and they mentioned that we had tied when passing out the trophies, yet I ended up with best late Model Thunderbird. I don't know the difference or what made mine end up getting that award . Besides the 7 retros judged, there were a couple of others, including an '87 that has won best late model T'bird several times in the past.

    Since we're also in CTCI, their judging is on a point system. If the car makes the grade, it gets the award for that grade. When a car has points very close to the next category up, expert judges will be called in to see if it merits a change in a point or not. They acknowledge that each judge sees things differently.

    I don't mind so much if I don't get a trophy or don't get the top spot but it sure felt nice to get that last trophy, especially since it featured a Thunderbird graphic (a 57) and would go well in my collection of Thunderbird memorabilia.
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    • #17
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      All, Dot's post made me think that I might be coming off looking like that's what I go to shows for. While I enter the competition, work tirelessly to make sure my cars are immaculate and if I don't place in the top 3 I want to know why it's totally not the only reason I go. I go to spend time with some of the nicest people I have ever met and who have become extremely close friends of mine. We go to 2 shows a year that don't award trophies - well maybe 1 that is open to all cars awards 1, best in show - no retro will ever come close to winning that. I think I get more upset if none of us place in the top 3 than if I don't.

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      • #18
        Re: Car Shows, Judging & Tie Breakers

        Originally posted by Chuck View Post
        . I go to spend time with some of the nicest people I have ever met and who have become extremely close friends of mine.
        Not to mention you have to move the trailer now and then or the wheels might freeze up...
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        • #19
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          I entered my TBird in a car show once. When I paid my entry fee the judges looked each car over and determined what Class it would be put in, my car was put in the Roadster Class. I won a First Place Plaque in my Class. During the day they gave out prizes for things like the Original Window Sticker, I have mine but didn't have it with me.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by Leroy View Post
            First Place Plaque in my Class.
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            • #21
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              Guess this is why I don't do car shows.
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              • #22
                Re: Car Shows, Judging & Tie Breakers

                Was at the national convention of a large national Thunderbird club a couple years ago in Charleston and I lost 1/2 point because I had removed those ugly safety stickers from the sun visors! Still ended up as one of about 5 First Place winners in the Retro category with 98 1/2 points out of 100. The retro category was judged by fellow retro owners.

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                • #23
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                  I actually enjoy the tougher judges that will help you out. I'm always kind of intimidated walking up to them and asking "what's wrong with my car". As someone who has judged I can tell you there are a lot of not so nice people who will say "Come-on I can't believe you took points off for that". I had points deducted for dust in the little rubber grommet on the fender walls. That will never happen again.

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                  • #24
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                    Sounds like car shows are secret OCD conventions.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Car Shows, Judging & Tie Breakers

                      Originally posted by 5bird7 View Post
                      I might add that the Yellow Rose Classic that I showed in this past weekend, gave both Johnnycog's and mine "Class winner" trophies and they mentioned that we had tied when passing out the trophies, yet I ended up with best late Model Thunderbird. I don't know the difference or what made mine end up getting that award . Besides the 7 retros judged, there were a couple of others, including an '87 that has won best late model T'bird several times in the past.

                      Since we're also in CTCI, their judging is on a point system. If the car makes the grade, it gets the award for that grade. When a car has points very close to the next category up, expert judges will be called in to see if it merits a change in a point or not. They acknowledge that each judge sees things differently.

                      I don't mind so much if I don't get a trophy or don't get the top spot but it sure felt nice to get that last trophy, especially since it featured a Thunderbird graphic (a 57) and would go well in my collection of Thunderbird memorabilia.
                      As we discussed at the show, I was wondering the same thing about what the determining factor was in the tie breaker. Could have been the mileage, ours only has about 58k, however, I think it was the interior; yours is VERY nice!

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                      • #26
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                        Was watching an auction last evening. They stated one 1960's ( I think) car scored something like 99 out of 100. They said it lost a point because it didn't have the original air in the tires..
                        Bird is the word.....
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                        • #27
                          Re: Car Shows, Judging & Tie Breakers

                          Originally posted by RustyFrye View Post
                          Was watching an auction last evening. They stated one 1960's ( I think) car scored something like 99 out of 100. They said it lost a point because it didn't have the original air in the tires..
                          Never seen this before, say that's a little overboard!

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                          • #28
                            Re: Car Shows, Judging & Tie Breakers

                            With a heavy heart, I have to admit that my Galaxie's trophy days are over for two reasons.

                            First, "baby's" starting to look a bit shabby, especially the paint. (Heck, if you were repainted in 1980, you'd start to look shabby too.)
                            Second, since they don't make old cars anymore, I'm starting to see the same old cars over and over and over............................ Many of them are much nicer than mine.

                            Will that stop me from showing the car? Heck, no. It still draws a lot of lookers and positive comments, and it's fun.

                            (If I'm lucky, I still might get a "best 1964 Galaxie pagoda green convertible" trophy, or a "top 30" if only 25 cars show up.)

                            But, I'll go out with many fond memories:

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                            • #29
                              Re: Car Shows, Judging & Tie Breakers

                              Originally posted by RustyFrye View Post
                              Was watching an auction last evening. They stated one 1960's ( I think) car scored something like 99 out of 100. They said it lost a point because it didn't have the original air in the tires..
                              Like I have said before, think like a judge. My '97 still has the original spare tire with the original air inside. One extra point for me !!!!!!

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