Owners 007 Data

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

Re: Owners 007 Data

Are these 007 TBirds considered rare, with 700 of them out there. How can one of 700 cars all the same be considered rare? Does being rare make them worth more? I don't get it.

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[007Cruiser]

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Not rare, just special. The 700 are about 1% of total production.

[Cashr22]

Well then ,I have one that is 1% of total production and not a 007. Is mine special ?in my mind only.

[007Cruiser]

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They're all special, Ross.

[Guest]

Re: Owners 007 Data

The terms 'rare,' 'special,' 'unique,' 'one of one,' etc. have different meanings for different people. All Retros are rare and special in their owner's eyes. TBN members have a special passion for the 2002-2005s that others may or may not share.

For collectors, a 'rare' color combination that may be 'one of one' or 'one of four,' etc. may or may not be considered special, just because few were built in that particular configuration.

The Ford designated 'feature cars,' NM, 007, PCR and 50th Anniversary Cashmere, may not be as low in production numbers as say the 'Inca Gold,' or other low production standard color combinations, but because of the 'branding,' special badging and and feature car designation, collectors may pay more.

Based on the auction prices of some of the '60's muscle cars, the size and HP of the engine is one of the primary reasons for the high prices. For instance a 1971 Barracuda with a 340 engine isn't worth anywhere near the price the rare Hemi 'Cuda recently fetched.

If Ford had built a supercharged Thunderbird, my guess is that it would be among the most collectible, and bring the highest prices in the future. But they didn't, and the difference in HP from 2002 to 2003-2005 probably isn't enough difference to affect prices much.

I think the Retro 'feature cars' will probably bring the highest prices (among Retros) in the future because they are more 'identifiable' than others. The 'number' plates may not cost much, but to future collectors they may carry more significance.

Very low-mileage 'feature cars' will probably bring the highest Retro prices in coming years.

[Leroy]

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Maybe so, only time will tell. But the key is like you said " Low Mileage " and I believe an even bigger factor is Care. A well cared for car featured or not will stand out before all others if it's kept original.

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[Quickdraw]

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Mileage and condition being the same I'd wager that in the future the Inca will be worth more than the feature cars. The NM might be the exception.

[2K2BIRD]

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007 cars are pretty and unique in several ways, but while some folks get a kick out of tracking this info - it could easily be combined with Harry's "useless facts" thread.

Once it was determined that the #'s don't 100% correspond with a set VIN or order sequence, other than bragging rights for maybe #001, #007 or #700, the numbers themselves really don't mean much. There is no reason to suppose a lower number is in any way more valuable than a higher number or vice versa.

In the end - one 007's value over another will be determined by condition and what a will seller and buyer can agree on as to a price.

Same goes for all the rest - depends on whether the seller has what the buyer's looking for and if they can come to terms. We've seen common colors sell for more than anyone could consider normal and numbered editions sell for less than what might believe they are worth. Most of us won't live long enough to know whether any of them really out do the others on a consistent basis.

[OrangePower]

Re: Owners 007 Data

VIN 4109, 007# 336

[5bird7]

Re: Owners 007 Data

Thanks, Tom. I've added yours to the data.

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

Re: Owners 007 Data

Thanks, Tom. I've added yours to the data.

How many do we now have?

[5bird7]

Re: Owners 007 Data

add it up, Ron. See message #26.

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

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add it up, Ron. See message #26.

I counted 133. Vin #5811 Gbox #436 shows up twice.

[5bird7]

Re: Owners 007 Data

I counted 133. Vin #5811 Gbox #436 shows up twice.

Did you add in the list that CEWhite posted in #58? forgot he had put that list in though I have it on my database which I haven't merged yet.

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

Re: Owners 007 Data

Did you add in the list that CEWhite posted in #58? forgot he had put that list in though I have it on my database which I haven't merged yet.

I am just hearing about #58, I will look there also and get back with you. It looks like 64 more.