Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

I'm not sure what you mean by yours is "4Y109557" - it's not 4y109657??? Dot can confirm, but that 4y109657 sticker says EXT PNT: FX FX is the paint code for Merlot... However 4y109557 was light ice blue... are you saying your dash VIN does not match the sticker VIN? Then yes, they goofed. Do you have the window sticker? I see both cars were built on the same day, - Ill bet the real 109657 Merlot is sporting a sticker that says it is Light Ice Blue - one car was probably right behind the other on the line, the guy (or gal) mis-read the VIN and grabbed the wrong sticker.... Ron, you sure have a talent for gathering really rare cars!!

Does your information show rotation numbers? How close were the two?

[Quickdraw]

Does your information show rotation numbers? How close were the two?

I don't have rotation numbers. The rotation numbers would be several to many numbers apart anyway to allow for the Lincolns going down the line between Tbirds...

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

It is hard to understand how the door data sticker got separated from the anti-theft stickers. Chassis department does both.

[Quickdraw]

It is hard to understand how the door data sticker got separated from the anti-theft stickers. Chassis department does both.

When there is no other explanation, human error has to be the answer. Perhaps a different person puts the door sticker on. The guy looks at the VIN and goes to get the sticker and sees the 657 before the 557 and just remembers the 57. Wonder how many gallons of the wrong color pant get ordered by unsuspecting body shops...

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

When there is no other explanation, human error has to be the answer. Perhaps a different person puts the door sticker on. The guy looks at the VIN and goes to get the sticker and sees the 657 before the 557 and just remembers the 57. Wonder how many gallons of the wrong color paint get ordered by unsuspecting body shops...

I was having the front license plate bracket holes filled on the Light Ice Blue when we found this. The Ford dealer was having a hard time matching the paint. They called and told me the car had been in a wreck and the door had been replaced. I yelled BS and proceeded to go look for myself and found the Merlot sticker and wrong VIN on the door. Anti-theft sticker on the front of the door had the right number, there was no sign of a door being removed or repainted, so they backed off on car being wrecked. They had pulled the Ford information sheet and were using the correct color, but matching was just not going their way so they started looking to blame something else. I am wondering if anyone at Ford can get a correct data sticker for the door?

[Quickdraw]

I was having the front license plate bracket holes filled on the Light Ice Blue when we found this. The Ford dealer was having a hard time matching the paint. They called and told me the car had been in a wreck and the door had been replaced. I yelled BS and proceeded to go look for myself and found the Merlot sticker and wrong VIN on the door. Anti-theft sticker on the front of the door had the right number, there was no sign of a door being removed or repainted, so they backed off on car being wrecked. They had pulled the Ford information sheet and were using the correct color, but matching was just not going their way so they started looking to blame something else. I am wondering if anyone at Ford can get a correct data sticker for the door?

LaPhill claims to have Bill Fords phone number... as an alternative you can call WHQ as ask to be connected to Bill's office. One of his people should be able to get it handled far faster than you trying to work your way thru the Ford bureaucracy.

[Jimr]

I was having the front license plate bracket holes filled on the Light Ice Blue when we found this. The Ford dealer was having a hard time matching the paint. They called and told me the car had been in a wreck and the door had been replaced. I yelled BS and proceeded to go look for myself and found the Merlot sticker and wrong VIN on the door. Anti-theft sticker on the front of the door had the right number, there was no sign of a door being removed or repainted, so they backed off on car being wrecked. They had pulled the Ford information sheet and were using the correct color, but matching was just not going their way so they started looking to blame something else. I am wondering if anyone at Ford can get a correct data sticker for the door?

Ron it seems to me you just might want to keep the car with an anomaly like that in tact.

[jbaugher]

Ron,
1FAHP60A54Y109657
Order Date: 3/2/2004
Date Built: 4/19/2004
At Dealer: 5/19/2004
Sold Date: 8/10/2004
Sold By: Ford Of Englewood, Englewood, NJ
Description: 2004 premium, merlot body and hardtop, sand interior color package, SST, 16 spoke machined wheels
Invoice: $39,582.30 (Dealer cost, not sticker price)
One Of: 1,269

Johnny,
1FAHP60A35Y106967
Order Date: 2/18/2005
Date Built: 4/20/2005
At Dealer: N/A
Sold Date: 4/28/2005
Sold By: Ford Company Lease Plan, MI
Description: 2005 premium, inca gold body, no hardtop, standard black interior, SST, 7 spoke chrome wheels (no supplimental parking lamps)
Invoice: N/A (Dealer cost, not sticker price)
One Of: 2

You also saw these notes on your car in post #4?
http://www.thunderbirdnest.com/forum...34#post1009334
It was delivered to Chicago Heights, IL and driven by a pretty nice guy, Kevin was his name.

thanks

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

Ron it seems to me you just might want to keep the car with an anomaly like that in tact.

So far it seems I have no choice, but we are going to Michigan next week and I will ask around.

[4LOWBIRDS+7]

Harry I went looking for all the information you gave me on my cars and it seems I have lost all the PM's containing the data. So if you can find time please refresh me on the data.

2Y100190
2Y109940
3Y106016
3Y111765
4Y100089
4Y100653
4Y101184
4Y107337
4Y109557
5Y108500
5Y109330

Thanks, Ron

[Will]

2Y11737 -- I was driving around town last Sunday & spotted this '02 blue in a driveway. No one was home, so I looked the car over: white seat inserts but with blue trim on shift knob & top of steering wheel. My thinking: somebody replaced the seats? These folks have no garage, so the car lives outdoors: Headlights & SPLs are as foggy as the Golden Gate Bridge on a cool San Francisco morning. I would like eventually to talk to the people & if they seem interested in talking Tbirds I'll give them your info. Thanks. New TBN membership here is possible. ---Will

[Quickdraw]

2Y11737 -- I was driving around town last Sunday & spotted this '02 blue in a driveway. No one was home, so I looked the car over: white seat inserts but with blue trim on shift knob & top of steering wheel. My thinking: somebody replaced the seats? These folks have no garage, so the car lives outdoors: Headlights & SPLs are as foggy as the Golden Gate Bridge on a cool San Francisco morning. I would like eventually to talk to the people & if they seem interested in talking Tbirds I'll give them your info. Thanks. New TBN membership here is possible. ---Will

Will, you are one digit short... assuming it ends in 737 it may be one of these '02 blues...
101737
110737
121737
117737
124737

[Will]

Thanks for working on this, Quickdraw. I was reading their VIN squinting thru the windshield without my glasses on -- never a good idea. I went back today & talked to both of them. They said they ordered it on, I believe, May 01, 2001, at University Ford in Durham NC, It was delivered one year & three days later, so maybe the delivery date was May 3rd or 4th or 5th, 2002. I was also wrong about the seats inserts: not white, but it's got the partial blue interior. Unbelievable: 15 years old last May & only 23,000 miles on it. Can you work with that info? Very talkative couple, love their Tbird, but the guy -- about 6' 3" tall with a large tum-tum -- said he can't fit in it anymore. I believe it. He reminded me of the guy nicknamed "Goose" from the Baltimore Ravens. Huge. I told him to look up TBN & he said he would, but it seems certain they won't join us for any cruise-ins. Maybe just the Mrs., but I doubt it. Please let me know if you can come up with their info. I'll tell them TBN was my source & I bet they'll be impressed. Thanks. ---Will

[Quickdraw]

Will, It has to be this one...

1FAHP60A42Y117374
Order Date: 5/7/2001
Date Built: 4/30/2002
At Dealer: 5/8/2002
Sold Date: 5/10/2002
Sold By: University Ford, Durham, NC
Description: 2002 deluxe, thunderbird blue body and hardtop, full blue interior accent, 21 spoke painted wheels
Invoice: $36,283.80 (Dealer cost, not sticker price)
One Of: 455

[Will]

Thanks, Quickdraw, that must be it. I'll copy the info & swing by their house & give it to them. ----Will