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  • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

    Thanx for that info QuickDraw (it really was "quick", and on your holiday no less :)

    Originally posted by Quickdraw View Post
    Ricki,
    Google VIN DECODER - if you find a good one that's free let us know.
    I gave up - seems every link is a list of MORE links. And, as I've learned many times, nothing worth having is free.

    I was interested to know the meanings of the letters & numbers in the VIN. A shop manual usually spelled it all out in the first chapter, so I was just curious. Somewhere in the past few days I read 3.9L engines from one assembly plant seemed to be more prone to problems than others. I thought the VIN might tell me where my engine was built. However, I would have thought all those engines came from same plant anyway.

    Mike.
    Mike.
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    (Borla Club #148)
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    • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

      Originally posted by ricki View Post
      Thanx for that info QuickDraw (it really was "quick", and on your holiday no less :)


      I gave up - seems every link is a list of MORE links. And, as I've learned many times, nothing worth having is free.

      I was interested to know the meanings of the letters & numbers in the VIN. A shop manual usually spelled it all out in the first chapter, so I was just curious. Somewhere in the past few days I read 3.9L engines from one assembly plant seemed to be more prone to problems than others. I thought the VIN might tell me where my engine was built. However, I would have thought all those engines came from same plant anyway.

      Mike.
      The meaning of the VIN digits can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle...ication_number

      But, for our cars, using this random VIN #: 1FAHP60A02Y100300
      1= Country where manufactured: United States
      F= Identity of Manufacturer: Ford Motor Company
      A=Vehicle make: Ford
      H=Restraint system: Driver, passenger and side air bags with active seat belts
      P= Vehicle Type: Passenger
      60=Body Style: Standard two door convertible
      A= Engine Identification: 3.9L V8
      0= Check Digit: Result of mathematical formula used to verify validity of the other 16 digits
      2= Year code: 2002
      Y= Assembly Plant: Wixom
      100300 = The serial number: 100300

      The first five digits of all 2002-2005 Thunderbirds are the same (1FAHP)
      the 60 in places six and seven will either be 60, 64 (2002 Neiman Marcus), 62 (for the 2003 007 Bond car), 63 (2004 Pacific Coast Roadster) or 69 (2005 Cashmere Special Edition). All ours have A in the eight place and all have Y in the 11th place.

      All of our engines were made at the Lima Ohio Engine Plant and all of our transmissions were made at the Sharonville Ohio Transmission Plant.
      Quickdraw
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      • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

        interested in your build info, as my PCR was quickly shipped to US-Ford dealer in Netherlands
        2004 - Y1 07492
        Thanks!
        Fashion fades, style remains

        And my daily use car is: SAAB TURBO Coupe 1984 (fully restored, silver metalic, 200 hp with raw exhaust: WROAAAHHHH )

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        • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

          Originally posted by Quickdraw View Post
          The meaning of the VIN digits can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle...ication_number

          All of our engines were made at the Lima Ohio Engine Plant and all of our transmissions were made at the Sharonville Ohio Transmission Plant.
          Thanx Harry, answered all my questions.

          Mike.
          Mike.
          (Canadian Chapter #72)
          (Borla Club #148)
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          • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

            Amsterdam,
            4Y107492
            Order Date: 12/17/2003
            Date Built: 2/10/2004
            At Dealer: 2/24/2004
            Sold Date: 4/21/2004
            Sold By: Elder Ford, Troy, MI
            Description: Monterey Mist PCR, Ash hardtop, medium ash interior accent, SST, 16 spoke machined wheels.
            Invoice: $40,736.06
            One Of: 1,000

            Hans, This car wasn't built for export...it was ordered and built for Dealer Stock for Elder Ford in Michigan... you found it online and bought it?
            Quickdraw
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            • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

              Thanks Harry.
              The first owner was a Dutch fanatic Ford-USA cars dealer (who still services the Bird), he visited often USA with former Dutch Chairman T-bird classic Club (and he collected 74 memorablia incl. very rare pieces (for sale now as 1 piece but impossible into USA: 5 boxes)). The Michigan dealer was probably a friend and I'm the 2nd owner/driver of this PCR (now 12.000 miles)
              Best regards,
              Hans
              Fashion fades, style remains

              And my daily use car is: SAAB TURBO Coupe 1984 (fully restored, silver metalic, 200 hp with raw exhaust: WROAAAHHHH )

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              • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

                PS the invoice amount is the purchase price the USA dealer paid?
                Fashion fades, style remains

                And my daily use car is: SAAB TURBO Coupe 1984 (fully restored, silver metalic, 200 hp with raw exhaust: WROAAAHHHH )

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                • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

                  2005 Cashmere 108610

                  The dealer still claims they sold it new. Now, we will find out whether they did or not.

                  Thanks

                  CVCashmere
                  CVCashmere

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                  • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

                    CVCashmere,
                    5Y108610
                    Order Date: 4/19/2005
                    Date Built: 6/9/2005
                    At Dealer: 6/21/2005
                    Sold Date: 7/5/2005
                    Sold By: Bell Motors, Colonia, NJ
                    Description: Cashmere Special edition, cashmere hardtop, medium ash interior accent, SST, 16 spoke machined wheels
                    Invoice: $41,537.55
                    One Of: 1,500
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                    What made you doubt he sold it new? High mileage for a new car? #1. If maybe 30-40 miles on it, it may have been selected at the factory for an executive to take home and evaluate. #2. If it had hundreds of miles on it, it may have been designated as a "demo" - although it was originally ordered for dealer stock.
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                    Amsterdam, yes, the invoice is the amount the USA dealer was invoiced for the car although decisions after made later could have reduced the cost to the dealer (rebates). I'm also pretty sure this price does not reflect the approximate 2% holdback the dealer receives annually.
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                    Quickdraw
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                    • Harry, I would appreciate it if you could provide the info on my 2002 Bird vin # 1FAHP60A62Y124195. Thank you.

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                      • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

                        DJFMJF,
                        2Y124195
                        Order Date: 6/5/2002
                        Date Built: 8/7/2002
                        At Dealer: 8/22/2002
                        Sold Date: 7/23/2003
                        Sold By: Beverly Hills Ford, Beverly Hills, CA
                        Description: Torch Red, red hardtop, full red accent interior, 7 spoke chrome wheels
                        Invoice: $37,283.22
                        One Of: 3,125
                        Quickdraw
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                        • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

                          Harry, if you are still doing this could you check my 2005? Last five numbers of the VIN are 05365.

                          Many thanks,
                          David

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                          • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

                            Harry, 2003 Vin# 113356, ChucknChris

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                            • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

                              Silverbird,
                              5Y105365.
                              Order Date: 1/19/2005
                              Date Built: 2/9/2005
                              At Dealer: 3/1/2005
                              Sold Date: 3/28/2005
                              Sold By: Midway Ford, Miami, FL
                              Description: Platinum Silver, no hardtop, standard black interior, SST, 16 spoke painted wheels
                              Invoice: $35,904.25
                              One Of: 48

                              ChucknChris,
                              3Y113356
                              Order Date: 3/31/2003
                              Date Built: 6/10/2003
                              At Dealer: 6/17/2003
                              Sold Date: 10/7/2003
                              Sold By: Geneva Lakes Ford, Lake Geneva, WI
                              Description: Torch Red, red hardtop, full red interior accent, SST, 7 spoke chrome wheels
                              Invoice: $38,831.21
                              One Of: 858
                              Quickdraw
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                              • Re: Get build information on your 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

                                Hi Harry, Mine is a 2002, vin # 104062. T-Bolt

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