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  • RBIRD
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    I'm wondering how many Birds have suffered VAPS failures. We have had 2 go all leaky on us!

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  • BLACK BEAUTY
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    Harry how many black/WW interior cars were there?

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  • clenet
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    How many whisper white car's were in dealer stock in 2003? The chart has a mistake with 163.912 as the number in stock and the same number was the avg days to sell.

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  • Quickdraw
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    Originally posted by EllisonCal View Post
    Harry, I'm curious I have seen so many Merlots with the Sand package (top and interior) that it seems strange to see one without the sand package. Is there any useful statistic that would indicate how many of them had the sand package? Not so many in TR, I'm sure.

    Of the 3,991 Merlots made, 3059 had the sand package and 932 had black interiors.
    Of the 14,349 Torch Reds (4 years), 532 had the sand package, 5,104 had black, and 8,407 had red and 168 had white interiors.

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  • EllisonCal
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    Harry, I'm curious I have seen so many Merlots with the Sand package (top and interior) that it seems strange to see one without the sand package. Is there any useful statistic that would indicate how many of them had the sand package? Not so many in TR, I'm sure.

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  • Quickdraw
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    Originally posted by steelblue5505 View Post
    Harry,
    very interesting to see which colors were popular in that part of the Nation. Kind of a surprise to see out of the 82 Inca Gold Texas has two.
    Dot makes at least three. She bought hers in Florida and drove it back to Texas.

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  • steelblue5505
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    Harry,
    very interesting to see which colors were popular in that part of the Nation. Kind of a surprise to see out of the 82 Inca Gold Texas has two.

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  • Quickdraw
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    These are the total number of Retro Tbirds originally sold in TEXAS
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    Body Color Total 2002 2003 2004 2005
    Bronze 111 111
    Cashmere 110 110
    Coral (007) 53 53
    Desert Sky Blue 108 108
    Evening Black 1074 593 226 140 115
    Inca Gold 2 2
    Insp. Yellow 273 273
    Light Ice Blue 56 56
    Medium Steel Blue 123 123
    Merlot 324 324
    Monterey Mist 88 88
    MS Grey 218 218
    Platinum Silver 349 268 81
    Tbird Blue 431 431
    Torch Red 946 546 201 120 79
    Mint Green 41 41
    Whisper White 482 312 170
    Totals 4789 2155 976 1037 621
    Last edited by Quickdraw; Mar 31, 2020, 12:17 PM.

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  • MikeB6
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    Originally posted by doubutsu View Post
    I don't consider it a useless fact, but everytime I mention it to anyone, it seems that they kind of have a, "shazam" moment. Our 2002-2005 Thunderbirds are the only cars in the history of the automoble that have tail lights the same size and shape as the headlights. They are also positioned in the rear as the head lights are positioned in the front. A very cool styling design never really talked about.
    Kinda like the doors on my Metropolitan. From the outside they look like they would fit on either side (except for the door handles).

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  • 4LOWBIRDS+8
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    Originally posted by 5bird7 View Post

    correct for the 2002 year but we were talking about the thunderbird blue and the Merlot (which started this particular discussion) from two different columns (years) so you need to read numbers in the last column. Thunderbird blue sold 3400 units than the Merlot.

    The chart posted from Quickdraw shows only the numbers ordered for the dealership and doesn't include the customer orders totals. He was making a point about customer orders went down with each passing year for this model.

    Combined in my post is the chart showing all of the orders built, customer and dealership.

    Using the numbers from the chart, 7406 for the TB and 3991 for the Merlot the TB out sold the Merlot by 3415. But there was additional months of 2002 production.

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  • 5bird7
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    Originally posted by HKS View Post

    In 2002 Evening Black, then Thunderbird Blue then Torch Red is the way my tired eyes see it on the chart.
    correct for the 2002 year but we were talking about the thunderbird blue and the Merlot (which started this particular discussion) from two different columns (years) so you need to read numbers in the last column. Thunderbird blue sold 3400 more units than the Merlot.

    The chart posted from Quickdraw shows only the numbers ordered for the dealership and doesn't include the customer orders totals. He was making a point about customer orders went down with each passing year for this model.

    Combined in my post is the chart showing all of the orders built, customer and dealership.

    Last edited by 5bird7; Apr 2, 2020, 01:26 PM.

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  • BLACK BEAUTY
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    Originally posted by doubutsu View Post
    I don't consider it a useless fact, but everytime I mention it to anyone, it seems that they kind of have a, "shazam" moment. Our 2002-2005 Thunderbirds are the only cars in the history of the automoble that have tail lights the same size and shape as the headlights. They are also positioned in the rear as the head lights are positioned in the front. A very cool styling design never really talked about.


    Michael how'd you find that out?

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  • HKS
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    Originally posted by 5bird7 View Post


    That # doesn't include the customer ordered tbirds. It's the number that the dealer ordered for his own stock. The 02 blue had the 3rd highest sales with black and red above it. Merlot was #5 in total sales and 2nd highest for the one year fashion colors. #4 was the whisper white in total sales. I think there is another table that shows the complete totals for each color besides the one that is on my webpage.
    Here's a file that Harry posted somewhere else on this thread.

    total produced.JPG
    In 2002 Evening Black, then Thunderbird Blue then Torch Red is the way my tired eyes see it on the chart.

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  • 5bird7
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    Originally posted by HKS View Post

    3710 Merlot in 2004? I never would have guessed that it sold more than the 2002 TB Blue.

    That # doesn't include the customer ordered tbirds. It's the number that the dealer ordered for his own stock. The 02 blue had the 3rd highest sales with black and red above it. Merlot was #5 in total sales and 2nd highest for the one year fashion colors. #4 was the whisper white in total sales. I think there is another table that shows the complete totals for each color besides the one that is on my webpage.
    Here's a file that Harry posted somewhere else on this thread.

    total produced.JPG
    Last edited by 5bird7; Oct 29, 2018, 08:59 AM.

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  • HKS
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    Originally posted by Quickdraw View Post
    Re: Random useless facts about 2002-2005 Thunderbirds

    Here's all four years data... The "# Dealer Stock" is the number of units that dealers ordered, as opposed to a customer order. Note the large percent of dealer orders for the yearly Special Edition models. That's reinforces my belief that the "Hero Cards" were directed toward the dealers to draw their attention to their uniqueness. I did a quick search but didn't find much to tell me the average number of days new cars sit on the lot waiting to be sold.


    EDIT: Again, thanks to Dot, here is the reconstructed table that otherwise would have been lost due to conversion to this version of TBN.

    table2.jpg
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    3710 Merlot in 2004? I never would have guessed that it sold more than the 2002 TB Blue.

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